Effective software teams are essential for any organization to deliver value continuously and sustainably. But how do you build the best team organization for your specific goals, culture, and needs?

That's the question posed by authors Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais in their highly-acclaimed book, Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow.

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we revisit Dan's 2021 conversation with Matthew and Manuel. Since first airing, their book has received broad recognition for its step-by-step advice, approach to team patterns and interactions, and compelling analysis of the communication pathways that lead to organizational success. 

Episode Highlights:

  • (1:58) Manuel's start in the organization design space
  • (5:02) Matthew's work in cybernetics
  • (9:38) Intro to Team Topologies
  • (17:28) Examples of team organization
  • (26:18) Practical first steps for organizational transformation
  • (33:14) Why high trust leads to fast flow
  • (36:46) How to know if your team has reached its cognitive load
  • (40:30) Understanding Conway's Law
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