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Developer Experience: It’s Time to Start Complaining w/ Gradle's Field CTO & Chief Evangelist, Justin Reock

# Developer Experience: It’s Time to Start Complaining w/ Gradle's Field CTO & Chief Evangelist, Justin Reock

By Justin Reock

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March 11, 2023

![DOES_Justin_Reock_Horizontal_1_2f91a77112](https://assets.linearb.io/image/upload/c_limit,w_2560/f_auto/q_auto/v1/DOES_Justin_Reock_Horizontal_1_2f91a77112?_a=BAVMn6ID0)

It's time to make noise. Developers need to take back their happiness and their productivity. But where should they start? 

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we're joined by Justin Reock, Field CTO and Chief Evangelist at Gradle. With a mission to mitigate the toil, friction, and frustration felt by so many developers, Justin has become a tireless advocate of Developer Productivity Engineering. 

Listen as Justin explains DPE by exploring the connections between productivity, developer experience, and joy. 

### Episode Highlights:

* (3:50) What is Developer Productivity Engineering?
* (8:14) Creative vs destructive flow
* (16:21) Metrics and visibility
* (22:37) Open source supply chain security
* (24:01) Blockchain, AR & VR

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